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		<title>A brace of snubbies</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 09:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MichaelWDean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[God told me to carry a brace of snubbies (two snubnosed revolvers) as my carry configuration. I like it. If one gun fails, I have another. I got a new one today, a Charter Arms Undercover Lite .38 special. It&#8217;s so light it feels like a toy &#8211; it weighs 12 ounces, is made of [...]]]></description>
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<p>God told me to carry <em>a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brace_%28sports%29">brace </a>of snubbies</em> (two <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snubnosed_revolver">snubnosed </a>revolvers) as my carry configuration. I like it. If one gun fails, I have another.</p>
<p>I got a new one today, a <a href="http://www.charterfirearms.com/">Charter Arms</a> Undercover Lite .38 special. It&#8217;s so light it feels like a toy &#8211; it weighs <em>12 ounces</em>, is made of aircraft-grade aluminum alloy, and can handle +P rounds. It&#8217;s a nice backup for my .357 mag Taurus 605 snubbie. Yay!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/2snub4.jpg"><img title="2snub4" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/2snub4.jpg" alt="" width="574" height="430" /></a></p>
<p>I love the brace of snubbies configuration:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/snubcarry1.jpg"><img title="snubcarry1" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/snubcarry1-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/snubcarry2.jpg"><img title="snubcarry2" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/snubcarry2-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>It this works for concealed carry with an open shirt:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/SnubbieCarryOpenConceal-003.jpg"><img title="SnubbieCarryOpenConceal 003" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/SnubbieCarryOpenConceal-003-225x300.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>which makes the snubbies very quickly accessible:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/SnubbieCarryOpenConceal-004.jpg"><img title="SnubbieCarryOpenConceal 004" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/SnubbieCarryOpenConceal-004-225x300.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>I love revolvers. I actually sold a semi-auto 9mm to buy this new lite snubbie now rather than waiting for the next royalty check.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/2snub3.jpg"><img title="2snub3" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com//wp-content/uploads/2010/04/2snub3-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>I usually don&#8217;t like photos of people pointing loaded guns at the camera, because they often end up being used elsewhere to imply that the person is crazy or violent. But I am not crazy nor violent, and these are pretty pictures, so dig &#8216;em. (note, no one is holding the camera, it&#8217;s a camera on a timer. I would never point even an unloaded gun at anyone for a photo, and certainly not a loaded gun, like these.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/2snub2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1671" title="2snub2" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/2snub2-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
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<p>&#8211;Michael W. Dean</p>
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		<title>Guns are good, um&#8217;kay?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 07:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MichaelWDean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(&#8220;You talkin&#8217; to me, kitty? I&#8217;m the only one here&#8230;.&#8221; lol&#8230;) Check out &#8220;How safe do you feel knowing there are people around legally carrying concealed guns?&#8221; (survey, with results and discussions. 18% said they feel &#8220;very safe&#8221; knowing people are carrying concealed guns.) Even ultra-liberal MSNBC says Record numbers now licensed to pack heat, [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/GunsRGoodUmKay-011.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1596" title="GunsRGoodUmKay 011" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/GunsRGoodUmKay-011-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/GunsRGoodUmKay-004.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1597" title="GunsRGoodUmKay 004" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/GunsRGoodUmKay-004-225x300.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/GunsRGoodUmKay-005.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1598" title="GunsRGoodUmKay 005" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/GunsRGoodUmKay-005-225x300.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>(&#8220;You talkin&#8217; to me, kitty? I&#8217;m the only one here&#8230;.&#8221; lol&#8230;)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/GunsRGoodUmKay-006.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1599" title="GunsRGoodUmKay 006" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/GunsRGoodUmKay-006-225x300.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>Check out &#8220;<a href="http://world-news.newsvine.com/_question/2010/03/23/4036468-how-safe-do-you-feel-knowing-there-are-people-around-legally-carrying-concealed-guns">How safe do you feel knowing there are people around legally carrying concealed guns</a>?&#8221; (survey, with results and discussions. 18% said they feel &#8220;very safe&#8221; knowing people are carrying concealed guns.)</p>
<p>Even ultra-liberal MSNBC says <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34714389/ns/us_news-life/">Record numbers now licensed to pack heat, Firearms deaths fall as millions obtain permits to carry concealed guns</a>.</p>
<p>And for those of you who think only cops and the army should have guns, check out <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-met-uic-cop-shot-0324-20100324,0,7877942.story">Cop accidentally shoots himself in store</a></p>
<p>or this wonderful YouTube video of a cop shooting himself in the foot in a <em>classroom full of kids</em>, after bragging that he&#8217;s the only person in the room &#8220;professional enough&#8221; to use a gun.</p>
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		<title>9mm vs .357 magnum</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MichaelWDean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The question of &#8220;what&#8217;s the magic bullet for self-defense&#8221; is debated endlessly on all sorts of sites, but these tests show why I carry a big-ass unwieldy revolver with six shots of  .357 magnum rather than smaller 9mm semi-auto that holds 17 shots. I used to carry a 9mm. It&#8217;s much easier to carry, concealed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question of &#8220;what&#8217;s the magic bullet for self-defense&#8221; is debated endlessly on all sorts of sites, but these tests show why I carry a big-ass unwieldy revolver with six shots of  .357 magnum rather than smaller 9mm semi-auto that holds 17 shots.</p>
<p>I used to carry a 9mm. It&#8217;s much easier to carry, concealed or open, and doesn&#8217;t weigh as much as the hog leg revolver. But the ability of .357 to punch through stuff is unquestionable.</p>
<p>(click on each photo to see it big)</p>
<p>Guns used in test: .357: Ruger GP-100 (six-inch barrel model- I picked the longer barrel for extra power and accuracy):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-0101.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1380" title="357vs9mm 010" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-0101-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>9mm: Springfield XD:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-0091.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1381" title="357vs9mm 009" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-0091-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>Targets: steel plates, 3/32 of an inch thick (between 1/8&#8243; and 1/16&#8243; thick):</p>
<p><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/03/plateSide-0011.jpg"><img title="plateSide 001" src="../wp-content/uploads/2010/03/plateSide-0011-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>Shooting distance: 11 yards (33 feet.) Targets were not clamped down and were allowed to fall when hit.</p>
<p>AMMO: 9mm: Winchester 9mm Luger, 115 gr. FMJ. .357: Hornady, 140 gr. JHP</p>
<p>RESULTS:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-001.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1374" title="357vs9mm 001" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-001-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>Hole is from .357 mag. Dents are from 9mm:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-002.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1375" title="357vs9mm 002" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-002-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-003.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1376" title="357vs9mm 003" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-003-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-004.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1377" title="357vs9mm 004" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-004-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>CONCLUSION: If you&#8217;re a good shot, and willing to deal with the extra weight and learn to use speedloaders quickly, a big .357 hog leg is probably a better carry gun for the Rocky Mountains than a small .9mm with more rounds. At least in winter. I have a friend here in Wyoming who says &#8220;9mm before Labor Day, .40    after Labor Day.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know there&#8217;s the whole argument of &#8220;penetration vs. expansion&#8221;, but JHP .357 expands once in. My point is it&#8217;s not going to be slowed down by heavy clothing. And .357 is the smallest caliber that can cause remote wounding by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrostatic_shock">Hydrostatic Shock</a>.</p>
<p>We have four-legged beasts here that can kill you, like cougars and bears. I&#8217;d  rather face one with .357 than with 9mm.</p>
<p>From the FBI&#8217;s <a href="http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi_10mm_notes.pdf" target="_blank">notes on  the 10 mm</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;<strong>The fear of over-penetration is a misconception, which was created  back  when law enforcement was trying to overcome misinformed public   resistance to the use of hollowpoint ammunition</strong>. In the process, we   began to believe it ourselves. First, our lawyers are unaware of any successful legal action resulting from the injury of a bystander due to a   round over-penetrating the subject. We are aware of numerous incidents   of Agents/officers being killed because their round did not penetrate   enough (Grogan and Dove, for example). Further, if you examine shooting   statistics you will see that officers hit the subject somewhere around   20-30% of the time. Thus 70-80% of shots fired never hit their  intended  target, and nobody ever worries about them &#8211; only the ones  that might  &#8220;over-penetrate&#8221; the bad guy. Third, as our testing shows,  even the most  frangible bullets designed specifically for shallow  penetration will  plug up when striking wood or wallboard and then  penetrate like full  metal jacket ammunition. We are aware of successful  legal actions where  an innocent party has been struck by a shot  passing through a wall, but  as we have proven, ALL of them will do  that.&#8221;</p>
<p>And from<br />
<a href="http://www.lesjones.com/posts/003216.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.lesjones.com/posts/003216.shtml</a> :</p>
<p>&#8220;Grogan and Dove were the two FBI agents killed in the <a href="http://www.thegunzone.com/11april86.html" target="_blank">1986  Miami shootout</a> with a pair of bank robbers named Platt and Matix.  Five other agents  were wounded. Matix fired only one shot, which  missed. Platt did all of  the rest of the fighting against the FBI  agents and arriving Metro-Dade  police officers. He soaked up numerous  bullet wounds, including several  rounds of 12 gauge 00 buckshot that  hit his legs as he wriggled out of a  wrecked car, and one 9 mm  hollowpoint round that entered through his  arm early in the fight and  stopped just short of his heart. Platt was  pretty much everyone&#8217;s worst  nightmare &#8211; ex-military, well-practiced,  and unrelenting.   &#8220;As a  result of ammunition failures in Miami, the FBI undertook a  program of  extensive ammunition testing. <strong>The FBI concluded that a  minimum of 12  inches of penetration in ballistic gelatin was necessary  for reliable  incapacitation, and &#8220;18 inches is better</strong>.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>ALSO</strong>: On a note related to self-defense, but not related to the above tests, I&#8217;ve added an aftermarket front sight, fiber optic <a href="http://www.amazon.com/HiViz-Ruger-GP100-Fiber-Optic/dp/B000EBUG4K/www30dollarfi-20">HiViz brand</a>. Really helps find your target in low light:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-016.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1383" title="357vs9mm 016" src="http://www.libertarianpunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/357vs9mm-016-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
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		<title>Got my gun carry permit today</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MichaelWDean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Got my Wyoming concealed carry permit today. Meant more to me than when I got my driver&#8217;s license. (I didn&#8217;t get a driver&#8217;s license until I was 21, and never really drove much.) Getting a concealed weapon permit is a large part of the reason I moved to Wyoming&#8230;.getting one is pretty much impossible in [...]]]></description>
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<p>Got my Wyoming concealed carry permit today. Meant more to me than when I got my driver&#8217;s license. (I didn&#8217;t get a driver&#8217;s license until I was 21, and never really drove much.) Getting a concealed weapon permit is a large part of the reason I moved to Wyoming&#8230;.getting one is pretty much impossible in Los Angeles County, unless you&#8217;re a movie star or a judge.</p>
<p>You have to live in Wyoming six months before you can apply, and it took a month to get it. I&#8217;ve been here seven months, and have been <em>open </em>carrying the whole time. It was a trip to actually <em>conceal </em>carry, walk down the street, go to the library, go eat lunch with the wife. It felt good, like walking on the moon.</p>
<p>The libertarian in me doesn&#8217;t like the idea of needing a government-endorsed card to practice an inalienable right, but the <em>Republican </em>in me digs being able to get the card, and <em>getting </em>it.</p>
<p>Ironically for me, the Wyoming legislature is currently mulling a bill that would allow concealed carry <em>without </em>a permit, and that bill may pass. (Yay!). But my permit will still allow me to carry in Utah, the Dakotas, Montana and a bunch of other states. (Not New York or California though! Those places are no friends of freedom.)</p>
<p>Also ironic is that my permit was available yesterday for pickup, but it was Presidents&#8217; Day, so the office was closed. &#8220;President&#8217;s Day&#8221; is what they call it, but it&#8217;s officially called &#8220;George Washington&#8217;s Birthday&#8221;, and I think George would have been appalled at the idea of needing a permit to carry a gun. He didn&#8217;t need no stinking papers to carry!</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s a really good day, and I&#8217;m very happy!</p>
<p>&#8211;Michael W. Dean</p>
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